This week on THE SKINNY CONFIDENTIAL HIM & HER PODCAST…
( 0:55 ): Welcome back to TSC HIM & HER Show. #571: Today we’re joined by Robert Kerbeck, former corporate spy, and author of RUSE, a true crime memoir that describes how he created a career out of being a successful con artist in Hollywood. Today we’re sitting down with Robert to discuss all things corporate espionage and social engineering. He also dives into his celebrity stories, specifically how he met OJ Simpson right before he was wanted for murder, how Kevin Spacey made a move on him, and becoming acquaintances with Paul Newman. He lastly gives us tips and tricks to getting what you want in any situation, how to always get a response from somebody, and the art of eliminating resistance.
DISCUSSION QUESTIONS WITH
( 2:05 ): Michael asks, “To begin, how do you introduce yourself?”
( 2:27 ): Lauryn asks, “When you walk into this office, is there stuff you look for as a spy right away?”
( 3:48 ): Michael asks, “How does one even go about going into the profession of being a corporate spy?”
( 4:53 ): Michael asks, “What are some of the things she’s asking you?”
( 5:48 ): Lauryn asks, “But what if you come across someone who starts asking you the questions?”
( 7:44 ): Michael asks, “Is this legal?”
( 8:17 ): Lauryn asks, “What’s a job you remember from the early days—the early, early days—that is like such a crazy story?”
( 9:25 ): Michael asks, “And it was only the telephone?”
( 11:48 ): Michael asks, “What was your childhood like, and why didn’t you want to follow a successful family business?”
( 14:29 ): Lauryn asks, “But as you go on, what are some things that—some stories you can tell us—that are just like crazy?”
( 15:07 ): Michael asks, “And is that because you’re getting this firm a bunch of results and I guess you’re becoming a better and better spy?”
( 15:44 ): Michael asks, “Are there some wins you can start to put on the board so people say, ‘This is the guy.’”
( 16:01 ): Michael asks, “Is the firm hiring you directly?”
( 17:53 ): Lauryn asks, “Are there any spouses that come to your agency to hire you for people thinking they’re cheating on?”
( 18:11 ): Lauryn asks, “Did you ever come across something that you, say you were looking right, and then found something that was completely out of left field?”
( 20:05 ): Michael asks, “And so are you able to come in and say, ‘Listen, in order for me to keep taking on these jobs, this is my rate’?”
( 20:45 ): Lauryn asks, “What are some little tips—tangible takeaways that you can give the audience—of things they can do to be more aware?”
( 26:14 ): Michael asks, “I have a reverse question of that: when you want information from people, what is the best way to get it?”
( 27:08 ): Lauryn asks, “What if someone said, ‘No, sorry’?”
( 28:30 ): Michael asks, “How do you learn to get good at something like this?”
( 29:56 ): Lauryn asks, “What differentiates a person who knows you’re bullshitting to someone who falls for it?”
( 31: 10 ): Lauryn asks, “What was the most difficult job you ever did, but ended up being great?”
( 33:54 ): Michael says, “We gotta get into this story—that you worked for OJ Simpson the week before OJ was arrested. Where does that play into all of this?”
( 34:24 ): Lauryn asks, “But were you doing the acting simultaneously?”
( 34:49 ): Lauryn says, “First you have to start off with drinking with Paul Newman.”
( 40:37 ): Lauryn asks, “What about taking J Lo to the Dodgers game?”
( 40:56 ): Lauryn asks, “What about Kevin Spacey hitting on you?”
( 42:27 ): Lauryn asks, “So you didn’t go to his house?”
( 42:29 ): Lauryn asks, “Do you know anyone who went to hit house?”
( 43:27 ): Lauryn asks, “Is there a story behind peeing next to Al Pacino?”
( 49:35 ): Michael asks, “Why do you feel there’s no real victims?”
( 50:50 ): Lauryn asks, “So what would you do with email?”
( 52:20 ): Lauryn asks, “If someone were wanting to catch their significant other, what are little tricks?”
( 54:16 ): Michael says, “When you come out with a book like this, and you start to share that you had this profession, is there any fear?”
( 55:05 ): Lauryn says, “I have to ask you about Malibu Burning.”
( 57:04 ): Lauryn asks, “When you say you fought the fire, what does that mean?”
( 58:38 ): Lauryn asks, “How do you save a house?”
( 1:02:30 ): Lauryn asks, “Where can everyone find your book? Instagram? All the things. Both your books.”
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